Thursday, June 30, 2005

The Price is Right

Yesterday, I expressed some concern in this post about the cost of Live 8 to the city. Today however, it was reported that Mayor Street and his team came through for Philadelphia and negotiated a $350,00 payment to the city for the concert. The Mayor was quoted as saying that this dollar amount will easily allow the city to break even. You can read the article from today's Inquirer here.

Seems like a good deal to me. The most interesting part of the article on a somewhat tangential note was this:

In addition, cellular telephone companies were taking steps to make sure they would be able to handle the expected volume of calls on Saturday.

Verizon Wireless reported that it had upgraded its permanent cell sites around the Parkway and added a COLT, an acronym for "cell on light truck." The COLT, which increases the capacity of the Verizon network by 40 percent, weighs 25,000 pounds and has two 50-foot antennas.
Who knew?

19 Comments:

At 1:01 PM, Blogger young_philadelphian said...

I agree. $350, 000 from the concert promoters. Tack on the $90, 000 licensing fee charged for vending rights, and other associated fees. With the increased tax revenue over this holiday weekend, the city will easily get back all the money it has spent for preparation and delivery of this event.

Mayor Street deserves another thanks from our city. Without him Ed Rendell would have never got anything done as Mayor here; everyone knows who was the key to starting this change in the 90's. Mayor Street just keeps racking up the titles. Not only is he the Neighborhood Mayor, and the Anti-Blight Mayor, he should be coined now the Renaissance Mayor. People are fired up and believe in our city again, signatures of Mayor Street's attitude.

This concert will be a great event for the city to come together again and reflect on the last five year's that has witnessed Philadelphia (the whole city) really change for the better, and we should be appreciative to all of our political, civic, business, and educational leaders. There's still more work to do as always, but you have to admit it just keeps getting better.

It's time to shine Philadelphia, America and the world's eyes are are on us this weekend.

 
At 1:08 PM, Blogger DanielUA said...

Sharif, is that you?

 
At 1:21 PM, Blogger Friedman said...

LOL Dan :)

 
At 2:05 PM, Blogger Ben Waxman said...

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At 2:09 PM, Blogger DanielUA said...

Thats fine. And, at some point, I would like to have that debate.
But, the post I was responding was so over the top as to be too much
to take.

 
At 2:16 PM, Blogger Friedman said...

Frankly, it is pretty shocking to hear that anybody thinks that Street is a better mayor than Rendell. However, I know that you're (Ben) pretty young and probably weren't following local politics and government that closely when Rendell was in, if at all. If you were - like I and many others have been doing - it would be self-evident that there's no comparison between the two administration in terms of professionalism, effectiveness, and achievement.

 
At 2:22 PM, Blogger Pat Evans/Butcher/Wicks said...

Friedman, always a pleasure to read your comments. If only you put as much time into your blog as you did ours, we would all have so much more to talk about it.

This blog is called youngphillypolitics for a reason. Constantly referring to poster's age in a pejorative fashion seems counterintuitive, no?

 
At 2:34 PM, Blogger Ben Waxman said...

Just to clairfy, I have actually been following politics since I was in the womb. You should see the shit I wrote about Rizzo when he tried to change the charter!

 
At 2:35 PM, Blogger DanielUA said...

Who is Rizzo? The guy with the pizza places in the suburbs?

 
At 2:39 PM, Blogger Friedman said...

Ray - your're a wiseacre. I don't put that much time into posting on YPP. I put a bit of effort into mine, but don't be so worried about how I'm spending my time. YPP has a lot of hyperbolic, insightful, and over the top postings all the time (Ben retracted one just the other day) aren't you expecting to get reactions from people? Isn't that one of the reasons why you do this blog? I don't think my reference to Ben's age was done in a pejorative fashion; it's just a matter of fact observation that's relevant to the substantiation of his opinion about who was a better mayor. I love your guys energy, keep it up, but there are a lot of things that you've missed over the last 15 years that have been asked and answered as part of the political dialog in this town; that's why I chime in as much as I do.

 
At 2:44 PM, Blogger Ben Waxman said...

So...how about that Live 8 concert. Do people think it was worth it?

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger Dumplingeater said...

Friedman, I'm guessing I'm considerably older than you, and I'm certainly old enough to recognize intellectual dishonesty when I see it. You're reference to Ben's age was obviously meant as a rhetorical device to imply that your age-derived wisdom gives you greater insight. That's pejorative. And the point is completely irrelevant anyway. If you disagree with something someone says on its merits, fine, but don't imply that something about their character lessens the validity of their points. Ben clearly has a solid grasp of the recent history of Philadelphia politics, certainly far better than many of your age cohorts.

Sometimes you make good points in your comments, and I usually enjoy reading them, but if you take this all too personally you'll miss the opportinity this blog offers for open dialogue from people with various viewpoints. It's about the discussion, not proving who's smarter or who's right.

 
At 3:16 PM, Blogger Friedman said...

I'm not taking anything personally; Ray's been calling me out for a few days for posting too much on YPP. Now you’re saying that I’m “intellectual dishonest”, but no big deal – I’ve got thick skin (and a big nose). Not to make this all about Ben, but somebody who was six (I remember him saying he was 20) when Rendell went in and 14 when he went out probably wasn't following Philadelphia politics and government very astutely during that phase of his life. And that lack of knowledge is relevant when making a comparison of both. And while my age (36) certainly doesn’t make me smarter, I’ve been intimately familiar with both administrations, having worked in both and known many people who worked in both, so it’s likely that I have more insight on this issue. As far as it being all about the discussion, it’s true – blogs and this one in particular are great forums. However, people are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. So I’d disagree, sometimes it is about being right or wrong; we’re not talking about art here, we’re talking about issues involving urban governance.

 
At 3:25 PM, Blogger Pat Evans/Butcher/Wicks said...

A lot of interesting points have been made. Can we agree to end this conversation now and talk about the issues again?

 
At 3:29 PM, Blogger DanielUA said...

Friedman-

We obviosuly love people coming here and posting. I dont think anyone wants you to write less.

Here is the point: Yeah, Ben was young, but so what. If you want to say, "I worked in the Rendell and Street Administration and I can give x,y or z as to why Rendell was better," that is fine. That is an interesting, and really important perspective.

The problem comes when you say Ben is too young, and leave it at that. I can tell you off the top of my head that Mike Schmidt retired while batting .203, that the Phillies never should have traded Ferguson Jenkins, Julio Franco, or Ryne Sandberg, or that in many ways the 1929 Athletics were better than the '27 Yankees. I was not partcularly "aware" for all of that, or even alive for most of it, but so what? You want to debate me on whether Schmidt should have retired in 88 or 89, you can do it based on facts right, not based on whether I was too young to actually see him struggle at the plate?

 
At 3:40 PM, Blogger Pat Evans/Butcher/Wicks said...

Dan's PGW piece below is a good read...interesting issue...

 
At 3:44 PM, Blogger Dumplingeater said...

To me, the problem is that you seem to confuse opinion with fact. Your "intimate" involvement with both administrations gives you valuable experience to lend to the discussion. So add it. But it doesn't mean that your interpretation about which administration was better is any more "factual" than anyone else's. That is a subjective value judgement, which hinges on many factors, including personal circumstances.

Following your logic, anyone older than you, who has been "intimately" involved in Philadelphia politics longer than you, would have more "insight" to what is "right." Think about that. Street has been intimately involved in Philadelphia politics for a very long time (and both administrations). Do you defer to his greater "insight?"

I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't express your opinions. You said "people are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts." But that is exactly the point; if you want to differ with the factual content of what someone has to say, go for it, and support your opinion with facts. But at the same time, the truth of that statement requires clarity as to what is opinion and what is fact.

Again, to the point, neither someone's age nor their level of familiarity with the details of a problem, in themselves, gives anyone more "insight" as to what is "right."

 
At 3:59 PM, Blogger Friedman said...

My head is spinning :)

I'll leave the YPP posts to the young guys from now on. Take care and keep up the great work.

 
At 6:43 PM, Blogger Dumplingeater said...

DanUA, Schmidt was a bum. HIM, they should have traded.

 

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